New pay limit proposal

[madbaker]

Obama to Limit Pay for Wall Street, NFL, NBA, MLB

(2009-03-22) — With the debate over AIG executive bonuses nearly bringing official Washington to a standstill in the past three weeks, the Obama administration today expanded its plan to control Wall Street executive pay, adding provisions to limit compensation for star performers in the National Football League (NFL), National Basketball Association (NBA) and Major League Baseball (MLB).

"Some of these sports stars, like AIG execs, have negotiated sweetheart deals paying them millions of dollars, and yet they lose games," said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs. “The president shares the outrage of the American people at these obscene salaries and bonuses. There's nothing that makes the little people feel littler than the thought of these fat cats getting fatter just because that have specialized skills that are in high demand in a free-market economy."

Indeed, the White House released a recent poll showing that 75 percent of Americans answered 'Yes' to the following question:

"Do you believe President Obama should personally limit the compensation of anyone who earns a lot more than you do?"

"How hard can it be to show up on Sunday and toss a few passes?" said Mr. Gibbs. "The fact that some people earn a lot more money than others just demonstrates the savage inequalities inherent in a capitalist system, and explains why the president has taken deliberate action to end it."

Under the terms of the pay-limit plan, the president would appoint a panel of university economists, union leaders, and "ordinary American community organizers" to establish paycheck parity between average hourly-wage workers and the people "who have carved out for themselves an unequal portion of the pie."

"In America you can dream as big as you want, but everyone agrees we need strict controls on those whose dreams have come true," Mr. Gibbs said. "The people deserve a system in which there are no limits to your potential, only to your achievements."

Yes, it's satire. Plausible, though.

Comments

[finickynarcane.livejournal.com]

Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

[fionnbharro.livejournal.com]

Plausible, and amusing.

I don't have problems with the large salaries. I also encourage people to make bonuses -- they're given for meeting certain performance-based goals, right?

Perhaps bonuses paid to every MLB player for each base hit -- on top of the salaries they make. Less, of course, for each error. Maybe that would be a good thing.

Or maybe a bonus for each drug test passed, and a bonus revoked for each one failed.

Taking acceptable risks in the workplace *should* be encouraged, and success rewarded. Like stealing a base, granting well-vetted higher-risk loans -- both have their place in their respective work environments.

Workplace fuckups, of course, shouldn't be rewarded. Casual walks from second- to home-base while singing "Neener, neener, can't catch me!" to the pitcher warrant a good ass kicking.

[madbaker.livejournal.com]

But not half as tedious.

[goldenstag.livejournal.com]

The problem is the AIG execs didn't perform well, hence "why the bonus"?

[fionnbharro.livejournal.com]

... Which would fall under the "Workplace fuckups ... ass kicking." Paragraph. :-)

[bonacorsi.livejournal.com]

There should be a distinction to be made between a person doing well and the company. One division may be doing gang-busters while the rest was drowning.


The only thing that I wonder about is the fine print in those contracts. Why would company lawyers forget small clauses that would allow for adjustments to the bonuses based on the overall company's well being.

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[madbaker.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, contracts that produce unpleasant outcomes still have to be honored.

[fionnbharro.livejournal.com]

I read (and I don't remember where, but it was within the past two weeks) that the AIG performance-based bonuses in support departments (such as those for people in Facilities, HR, IT/IS, and so on) have been eliminated.

The bonuses for executives in the business/line based departments (the ones doing the actual screwing-up), have bonuses specified to be paid no matter what. They're not performance-based.

I think that's the thing that's ticking everyone off.

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[albionwood.livejournal.com]

Tell that to the UAW.

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[madbaker.livejournal.com]

Bankruptcy is an exception to that rule.

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[albionwood.livejournal.com]

I don't understand - GM isn't in bankruptcy, is it?

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[madbaker.livejournal.com]

Nope. But the management threatened bankruptcy if the contracts weren't revamped. Negotiating with a gun to the union's head, which may have been the only way the UAW would ever give up some of its unsustainable benefits.

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[albionwood.livejournal.com]

How exactly is that different from the AIG situation? The executives aren't in a union, but I don't see a fundamental reason why they could not have been subject to bargaining. Indeed, it turns out they were; when asked, most of them gave up their unsustainable benefits. It's just that nobody thought to ask them before.

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[madbaker.livejournal.com]

For one thing, the amount of the bonuses given to AIG bonuses was $165 million. That's less than one percent of the bailout money that went to the company.

The UAW benefits represent a huge proportion of automakers' current outlays, if I remember right.

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[madbaker.livejournal.com]

The UAW is revising their contracts (with a metaphorical gun to their heads). It's "voluntary" negotiation.

Congress passing a bill of attainder targeting a specific group of people, taxing away 90% of legally contracted bonuses - however distasteful we may find them - is a different kettle of fish entirely. What's to stop them doing that for the next group that they dislike, such as tobacco executives... or sports stars?

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[albionwood.livejournal.com]

Yes. So "contracts that produce unpleasant outcomes still have to be honored" is clearly untrue. (It appears to depend on who suffers the unpleasantness.)

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[albionwood.livejournal.com]

Nothing to argue with there - I'm with you all the way on that. Congress is way out of line, and it is a frightening precedent. It's also deeply disturbing that Congress cannot seem to lead on anything - they are just reacting to public opinion or the latest headlines almost all the time.

There were (and are) much better ways to deal with this situation. Did it never occur to anyone, other than the AIG CEO, to find out if the execs would voluntarily renegotiate? Are unions really that much more reasonable than executives?

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[madbaker.livejournal.com]

See the below comment "What I should have said first".