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I am a Peer. I swore fealty to the King and Queen when I was elevated to the Laurel. Why didn't I go up to affirm my fealty at Twelfth Night? This is some rambling I wrote down to try to clarify my feelings on the matter.

The short version: the Royalty was having the Laurels swear only to the Queen, with the Chivalry swearing to the King and the Pelicans to both. This bugged me on a nonrational level; it felt like more of the same "some animals are more equal than others" that can happen when any one of the peerages has more cachet then others. In the West, it's the Chivalry. In Caid (at least when I lived there some years back) it was the Laurels.

The longer version:
This is personal fealty, me as a Peer. It is completely separate from fealty which I swear as a greater officer to the Coronet of the Mists. If this happened at the Principality level, I'd still go up for my office because that's a responsibility of the office. A few years back there was a greater officer of the Kingdom who refused to swear fealty as an officer because she had personal history with the Crown. (To which I say: bollocks. Then resign your office if you can't stomach it.)

First the legal argument. Corpora says that peers, including Knights, are in fealty to the Crown. Which is defined as both the King and Queen.
This has no emotional weight, of course. In the West, the Knights have always sworn to the King only since time immemorial and no legal ruling will change some Knights' feelings on this. I remember the shitstorm the first time a Queen dared say "So also say I". It goes back and forth depending on the views of the K&Q - and if they care.

I empathize with this - one of our values in the SCA, especially here in the West, is the weight of Tradition. This Is The Way It's Always Been, with the subtext that It Always Will Be That Way. Why change the lightbulb? (And I don't necessarily mean that in a negative way. One of the things I miss about the Bard not reading the roll of past Princes and Princesses at Investiture is the weight of history, of all those names rolling off. But I digress.)

So, legally, it doesn't matter what the K&Q say: I am in fealty to the Crown unless and until my peerage is revoked or I renounce my fealty. It shouldn't matter and I should have gone up to affirm my fealty regardless.

But it does matter to me. Here we get to the heart of the slight: the emotional component.

The SCA is a game, a leisure time organization. Fealty has no legal weight; it only exists in the SCA insofar as we recognize it. Like the Crown's authority, it requires everyone's buy-in. To be summoned up in the solemn rite of Coronation and to be effectively told that half the Crown doesn't want my fealty - that's a slap in the face. Unintended I'm sure, but that's how I perceive it.

I feel no need to affirm something publicly that isn't apparently valued by the recipient.

And all His Majesty had to do was say "So also say I" to make it a non-issue.

Re: Since I brought it up...

Date: 2007-01-09 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldenstag.livejournal.com
Well, without starting a whole religious war type thing ... I was brought up S. Baptist, and the way I was taught -- those rules are not something you can just ignore, they are from the mouth (or hand or ...) of God, and breaking those rules has dire consequences (burning in hell forever ...). So the idea that you can just pick and choose the rules within a religion just seems amusing to me. I know plenty of folk who are very devout (or so they say) S. Baptists (or other sects of the Christian religions) who think Killing someone is okay in some circumstances (for example Doctors at abortion clinics), despite the commandment that very clearly says "Thou shalt not kill." in the Old Testament, and Christ's very clear "Love they neighbor." statement (with no qualifiers -- not "Love they neighbor as long as they believe in the same God as you" or whatever ...). Well, this has strayed rather far from the original intent of himselfs posting ...

Re: Since I brought it up...

Date: 2007-01-09 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] finickynarcane.livejournal.com
You're right, it has strayed. And, by no means, am I religious - fanatic or otherwise. It's funny that I'm holding forth on religion. (Laugh WITH me here, please.) This was a fine can of words (sic). Thank you for engaging in this discussion with me.

Re: Since I brought it up...

Date: 2007-01-09 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldenstag.livejournal.com
My pleasure - as long as it doesn't get nasty, discussing religion can be interesting. The problem of course is when someone starts to think you're attacking their beliefs and then it gets uuuugly. I don't tell people what to believe, and prefer they don't tell me what to believe. If that's cool with everyone, it's cool with me. <g>

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